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Deadline: White House

“The last backstop”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the U.S. allies preparing for a world without American leadership, Trump’s plans for the Department of Education, and the state attorneys general fighting back against Musk’s sweeping federal cuts. Joined by: Courtney Kube, John Brennan, Sen. Tim Kaine, Randi Weingarten, Alex Wagner, Angelo Carusone, John Heilemann, and Lisa Rein.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York. What took decades to build and is the envy of the world.

0:13.3

A network of alliances that has kept the United States safe after World War II is today, right now,

0:19.3

shakier than at any other point, all because of the Trump

0:22.5

administration. Newsbreaking today of extraordinary discussions that weeks or months ago would

0:28.2

have been unthinkable. NBC News has exclusive reporting that some of the United States' closest

0:33.4

allies are talking about scaling back, their intelligence sharing relationship with the United

0:38.7

States. That includes the UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand. It's also known as the Five Eyes

0:45.4

Alliance, but it also includes Israel and Saudi Arabia who are having these conversations. And it's

0:51.3

because, quote, concerns about safeguarding foreign assets whose identities

0:55.7

could inadvertently be revealed. One Western government official tells NBC News this, quote,

1:01.5

there are serious discussions going on about what information can be shared with the U.S.

1:06.7

The Five Eyes have always worked on the premise that we don't spy on each other.

1:11.5

I don't think that's reliable anymore.

1:13.7

Tulsi Gabbard and these other characters, I don't think we can have any degree of

1:17.9

normalcy in the relationship.

1:19.9

That's right now where we are, and I don't see any way that changes.

1:24.6

So that's what's happening behind the scenes.

1:26.7

Out in the open today, our European

1:28.6

allies held another emergency meeting to try to figure out how to prepare for a future without

1:34.7

the United States as a reliable ally. NBC News confirmed earlier reporting that there are

1:40.3

ongoing talks happening between around 20 countries, mostly European countries,

1:45.7

interested in contributing to what they call a coalition of the willing to support Ukraine.

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