Late Night, Ian Lee on Talk Radio.

Let's go to Joe.

Hello, Ian. Hello, Kathy. It's nice to be speaking with you again.

Ian, I just heard what you said about, you know, you want to do something different you're looking for a new direction and possibly

psychotherapy and my aspect up because I don't know if you remember I spoke to you a couple of months ago when you were

talking about Harry and Megan and why you felt people were treating them the way they were. And anyway, we got talking and I mentioned a bit about my story

that I was a teacher.

And I kind of did that for a while and then, I think I had a very similar feeling to you I could hear it in your voice.

Are you the guy with you the guy with the camper van? Yeah that's right yeah.

You you you planted some seeds you did fella.

Oh my God you planted.

Oh you, oh you stirred the old noodles.

Really?

Oh yes, yes, yes.

Yes, yes. Well, it's funny because after I left teaching and I did a bit of traveling and I went and

worked abroad a bit and I worked in this, the school I went Portugal for a while and I was

very unhappy in a school I was giving sort of teaching my last final go really after

about 17 or 18 years.

It's got a long story short, I don't want to bore you,

but basically, I think, I heard in your voice

something that I felt when I was at a similar point in my life I think because I'm a couple

years older than you but a very very similar point in my life and something just clicked in me and I knew that I was unhappy and I knew that I needed to change something and so I did and I re retrained as a psychological therapist.

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