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Music Hey, this is Trey.

Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast.

We are lucky today to have yet another

what I consider to be brilliant legal mind with us. A couple of weeks ago, we had Andy McCarthy,

and I frequently sit in between Andy McCarthy and our guest today and find myself wondering

why I'm there. I was a trial lawyer, but I didn't

really take the time to learn the law. I can cry in front of the jury. I do that pretty well,

but that only gets you so far. Jonathan Turley is ubiquitous. Every time there's a legal issue of any consequence, he is on television.

And what I like best about him is he can take a really complicated legal issue and distill

it down to where even I can understand it.

So with that, welcome Professor Turley.

Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much.

It's great to be with you, Trey. All right. So you're a really good trial lawyer. No offense to

professors, but many professors are not really good trial lawyers. But you are both. So why did you choose to stay in academia when you could be advertising

on taxi cabs and buses and be a billionaire by now? You know, it's funny because I always wanted to do

both. I always wanted to teach and I wanted to litigate. And I've had the benefit

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