The Lie Detector Revisited

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.7 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it’s a lot easier than you think. Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he’s been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. “There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie.” Doug Williams, polygraph critic According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn’t work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you’re potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that… a test. It can be cheated. And he would devote the rest of his life to destroying it. Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraph exams. Now, he’s going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test. FOLLOW PRETEND ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@PretendPod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:36.2	Hey, it's Javier.
0:37.4	I'm, as you can probably tell, I am a little bit under the weather.
0:42.4	I've been fighting off some crud lately and it's prevented me from actually
0:47.6	finishing the series that I was going to air for you today. It's a new series called The Red Collar Killer. I am putting
0:55.4	the final touches on it now. As soon as is ready it's going to go on Pretend Plus and
0:58.7	Patreon and hopefully it'll be ready for you guys next week here on this feed. So I was thinking, all right, I need to air something, right? And I was thinking, you know, I have almost 200 episodes now and I looked back at some of my favorite episodes and I see the ones that don't get a lot of
1:14.7	traction maybe because they're like in the middle of the catalog or something.
1:18.8	But this one that I'm going to play for you today is called the LID detector and it was a two-part series and I am
1:24.9	going to just smush it together and make it one giant episode and this
1:29.8	episode is really special for me because I was actually the last person to
1:34.4	interview Doug Williams, the former Oklahoma City police officer who
1:38.6	basically went on a crusade against a polygraph industry.
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