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🗓️ 30 December 2024
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0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow. This is the Daily. |
0:11.0 | Today. For many, the presidency of Jimmy Carter, who died yesterday at the age of 100, has become synonymous with failure. |
0:23.3 | But as my colleague, Peter Baker explains, |
0:26.9 | the very qualities that hurt Carter as president |
0:30.2 | were the foundation of a post-presidency |
0:33.5 | that has both redeemed and rewritten his legacy. |
0:43.6 | It's Monday, December 30th. |
0:50.0 | Peter, you are a White House reporter who has covered the last five presidents. You're also a historian |
0:56.5 | of the presidency itself. And in those roles, I'm curious how you've been thinking about the life |
1:03.5 | and now the death of Jimmy Carter. Yeah, it's really interesting, Michael, because I've spent the last |
1:09.6 | few years writing Jimmy Carter's obituary, and I know that sounds a little weird, but that's something we do at the newspaper, right, to be prepared for these big moments. |
1:18.0 | And researching and reflecting on his legacy, I've concluded that it's really hard to imagine anybody like Jimmy Carter ever being elected president again. |
1:26.5 | I mean, he was a very unusual man, |
1:28.7 | and it was a very unusual presidency. Well, talk about that, this unusual man and his unusual presidency. |
1:35.8 | And what, in your mind, is the first chapter of that story that we should understand? |
1:43.0 | Right. Well, first of all, we should know that Jimmy Carter, |
1:45.7 | it's the American story in the sense of our mythology, |
1:48.5 | how we believe in ourselves. |
1:50.5 | It comes from very humble beginnings in rural Georgia, you know, |
1:54.2 | as a peanut farmer. |
1:55.5 | He wore blue jeans and had dirty fingernails. |
1:58.3 | You know, his childhood home had no running water or electricity. |
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