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🗓️ 3 April 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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0:00.0 | Here's a question I've been asking myself. |
0:08.4 | As I watch U.S. courts try to figure out what to do, about 238 men who got shipped |
0:15.5 | off to El Salvador without so much as a hearing. |
0:20.1 | Is the U.S. just doing black sites now? |
0:26.5 | So I called up Jonathan Blitzer, who covers immigration over at The New Yorker, |
0:31.3 | and I put this question to him. |
0:33.8 | I don't think that's an exaggeration. |
0:37.1 | Little refresher here. |
0:39.0 | A black site is defined as a clandestine detention center for prisoners who are being held without due process. |
0:46.4 | The U.S. is accusing people of a crime, or not even a crime specifically, of an identity that they are not presented with evidence of |
0:55.0 | and that they're not allowed to contest. |
0:57.0 | And then they're being summarily sent to a place in El Salvador where, yes, they are effectively being held in a black site. |
1:04.0 | So, you know, I don't think, I don't think your formulation is off the mark. |
1:08.0 | I think it's exactly what's happening. |
1:17.4 | The Salvadoran detention facility that's received these people has been called a mega prison. |
1:19.5 | It's known as Seacot. |
1:31.6 | Seacot is the acronym for what in Spanish translates to the center for the confinement of terrorism. And this is a prison that was built in the middle of this so-called state of exception because the Salvadoran government was |
1:36.8 | arresting so many people, they needed more jail space. You know, it is a black hole for certain. |
1:41.9 | I mean, there's just, there is no entry point for people from the outside. |
1:46.0 | The strange thing about the fact that it seems like the Trump administration is operating this |
1:53.4 | black site in El Salvador is that I think of black sites as things you want to keep secret and don't talk about. |
2:02.4 | And this administration is doing the opposite of that. |
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