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Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast today is Monday June 29th, 2020.

I am John Pudhord's the editor of commentary with me as always executive editor A. Greenwald

Hi, A. Hi, John associated editor Rossman Hi, Noah. Hi, John and senior writer Christine

Rose and high Christine. Hi, John. Okay, so we have a hugely confusing situation regarding

the virus right now. So the 14 day change in the number of cases yesterday versus 14 days

ago or this morning versus 14 days ago, there's an increase of 65%. Okay, the death toll is

down 25%. So when you are hearing about the surge in cases, what you're hearing about is a surge

in positives in testing and you are seeing a bit of a rise in hospitalizations, not a huge rise,

but a bit of a rise in hospitalizations and you are seeing no increase in death rates. So death

rates are a lagging indicator because people get sick and they get sicker and they get sicker

and then they die. But the hospitalization's number is flat in Florida, in Texas and it's not flat

in Arizona. So what does this tell us, Abe? It tells us in part that young people are now making

a larger and larger percentage of new positive cases. This is not something you hear a lot about

because it doesn't help scare people into staying inside and thinking that the virus is never

going away. But yesterday I was absolutely shocked to discover that in Minnesota, since the

protests, really beginning almost, I don't know, exactly around June 15th or so, among people in

Minnesota ages 20 to 29, their percentage of new positives absolutely skyrocketed, broke free

of the rest of the population and went soaring through the roof. Now this also is counter,

this counters the narrative out there that protests weren't a threat to public health

as many public health officials claimed. The piece in which I found that data tries to make the

case that these cases, that the uptick comes from a bar or a cluster of bars in a certain area of

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