Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Louise Perry. You know, I always tell you that I give you tomorrow's

news today. And a long time ago, I told you that there was an uprising of tremendously

intelligent and insightful women that nobody had noticed at that moment, women like Mary

Harrington, Erica Bakioki, Angela Franks is one of the lesser known, but one of my favorites.

And Louise Perry is one of

them women who are, I won't say rebelling against feminism necessarily because that word has

become kind of so amorphous. It's hard to even know what it means, but rebellion against the

current state of gender relations and sexual relations. Louise has wrote a really fascinating book called

The Case Against the Sexual Revolution. She now has a podcast with the great title that I want to

ask her about maiden mother, matriarch Louise. It's good to see you again. Thanks for coming on.

Thank you so much for having me.

So the first thing I want to talk to you about is an article that I read a while back. And for some reason, we just didn't have, couldn't fit you in when the

article came out. It was in first things. And it was called Modernity Self-Distruct Button,

which I thought was a great title. And you're talking about something that I've been talking about a lot

because I feel is probably the biggest story happening outside of the news that nobody seems to be paying attention.

It's is that people stopped having babies. And if you do the math, when people stop having

babies, it's not that good for the future of humanity. And there's just an amazing drop in

the replacement rate of people, people not having enough babies to replace the human race.

So can you describe, first of all, what you're seeing in terms of the numbers, the fertility drop off?

What exactly is the state of play that we're dealing with?

So, yeah, as you say,

we're seeing massive drops in fertility, really everywhere, with the exception of sub-Saharan

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