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The Messy Modern Music Business, According to Larry Jackson

Popcast

The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2024

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

An interview with the record label veteran and Gamma founder, who has worked closely with Whitney Houston, Drake, Chief Keef and Lana Del Rey.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the New York Times Popcast. You are John X and Joe X of music, news, and criticism.

0:07.7

I'm John Garmonica, a critic in the New York Times. I'm Joe Koskeurelli, a reporter at the New York Times.

0:12.5

And I'm Larry Jackson, founder and CEO of Gamma. The Swami is here.

0:17.2

If you are not familiar with Larry Jackson from the lyrics of Drake and Kanye West, we'll do a quick rundown.

0:23.9

Larry, founder and CEO of Gamma, as he said, this is a futuristic music and content company.

0:30.0

We're going to talk about that.

0:31.1

In business with Snoop Dog, Rick Ross, Usher, sexy Red, and many more.

0:36.5

Larry was a protege, is it fair to say, of both Clive Davis and

0:40.5

Jimmy Ivy. No one calls themselves that, but if you will like to call me that, then so be it.

0:45.8

Sure. You previously worked with Jimmy at Beats. Yeah, yeah. Then at Apple Music. But also in

0:51.0

Interscope as well. We'll get there. At Apple Music, you guys helped launch the streaming service.

0:55.6

Yeah, we did.

0:56.0

We did.

0:57.0

We did.

0:57.2

You were behind some of those early marketing wins, releasing exclusives.

1:02.1

Yeah.

1:02.6

From Drake, Chance the Rapper.

1:04.6

Frank Ocean.

1:05.6

Yeah.

1:06.2

Remember blonde and endless?

1:08.0

I was reliving that period of limbo. That might have been probably when we got to know each other, was me saying,

1:15.0

when's the album coming, when's the album coming, when's the album coming.

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