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Nathan Pekoski is with us today.

He is the director of academic programs at the Zephyr Institute in Palo Alto, California.

By the way, I was born in Palo Alto, Nathan. I didn't realize that. He had an article,

a long article on a book in the review section, in the November issue of first things, and a few months before that,

he had an essay entitled The Most Controversial Man in France, which will take as our springboard.

Welcome, Nathan.

Welcome. Thank you very much for having me.

All right. Now, the obvious question is, who is the most controversial man in France?

Well, it's Eric Zamor. As I wrote in the spring and as the mainstream media in the English-speaking world is now picking up,

he is an interesting, very dynamic, very energetic, very intellectual character, so I hope to cover all that.

And he has set his sights on the crown, as it were, becoming president of the Republic,

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