You know what people write about you, say about you.

This is the beautiful glamorous actress with her beautiful glamorous mother

who are out to ruin this basically, I don't know what,

tough guys.

Naive, yes, yeah.

Why do they say it?

I think people wonder why we're together.

A lady like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady like a lady like a lady like.

I've had a love.

Hello, unladys.

It's me, Kristen.

Y'all just heard a little clip from an astonishing,

1988, Barbara Walters interview with Mike Tyson and his then-wife, for I believe less than a year, Robin Givens. I'd never seen it until I was getting

ready to interview today's esteemed

Unladies room guest, Susie Bannacarum.

And we're going to get into it.

So I'm going to, as they say, save it for the podcast, even though this is technically the podcast.

But, who,

Mike Tyson is terrible to Robin Givens. But how it's presented to the world is that she is this seductress. She is this gold digger. She is the one manipulating poor Mike Tyson,

who is the heavyweight champion of the world. Like, he is not some poor man with no

ability to protect himself from this ice queen. But that is the story we hear over and over again

about women. Susie is one of the hosts of the podcast in retrospect.

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