"The most important lesson" for beating Trump and MAGA, with Katherine Stewart

That Trippi Show

Joe Trippi

News, Government, News Commentary, Politics

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🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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The question isn't just how we got here - it's what we do next. Joe and Alex are re-joined by Katherine Stewart for a special guest episode. Katherine has been researching the far right- from Christian nationalists to MAGA - for over 15 years, and her new book, "Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy" is a powerful look at how we got here - and what we have to do to defeat MAGA and restore American democracy long-term. What single lesson do pro-democracy advocates need to learn from the past decade? And what are the six reasons Katherine is hopeful for the future? Order "Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy" now: https://www.amazon.com/Money-Lies-God-Movement-Democracy/dp/163557854X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.7	hey everybody it's joe triie and welcome back to a special guest episode of That Trippie show with Alex Ashlow.
0:45.0	As you know, we've been exploring not just how and wide-prump one, but what we as a country need to do about it.
0:52.2	This week, we're really excited to have Catherine Stewart back on.
0:56.3	Catherine understands the MAGA movement better than most people. She's been researching it for
1:01.2	the better part of 15 years. Her new book, Money Lies in God, inside the Movement to Destroy American
1:08.7	Democracy, is out now, and it is a must read. Think of it as a long
1:14.9	form answer to how and why did Maga pull this off. Let's get into it. Catherine, welcome.
1:22.1	Great to be here again. Great to talk to you guys. Alex, where do you want to get started, my friend?
1:27.0	We have so much to get into today and we're really excited to talk to you guys. Alex, where do you want to get started, my friend? We have so much to get
1:28.1	into today and we're really excited to talk to Catherine about the book because it's really important
1:32.7	what's in there in terms of just the, like you said, Joe, the how and the why. But one thing that
1:38.4	we were talking about pre-show that I really wanted to start with is this idea, and Joe, you've
1:43.2	brought it up on the podcast
1:44.1	before. The idea that the kind of default condition of humanity is not democracy, right? It's
1:51.1	actually kind of hard to have a, it takes a lot of work to have a stable functioning democracy.
1:55.7	And I know Catherine gets into that, but Joe, why don't you start there with that kind of thesis?
2:00.2	And then Catherine, I want to hear what you saw for researching your book plays into that. Well, I mean,
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