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Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

The myth of good skin, with Jessica DeFino

Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

Pandora Sykes

Society & Culture

4.6835 Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Jessica DeFino is not your regular beauty journalist. After finding her pieces were regularly rejected from newspapers and magazines for being too incendiary, or dissing beauty brands who advertised, she founded her newsletter, The Unpublishable, where, in her own words she “dismantles beauty standards, debunks marketing myths and explores how beauty culture impacts people”. It now has 40,000 readers.  The Huffington Post once described her as “giving the middle finger to the entire beauty industry”.    Jess and I discuss why clear skin isn’t a health objective but an aesthetic one, the evolution of a tan, the explosion of celebrity makeup and skincare lines and why we’re at a tipping point in beauty. Subscribe to The Unpublishable Follow Jess on Twitter and IG @jessicadefino_   Hosted & Exec Produced by Pandora Sykes Production by Joel Grove

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0:00.0

Most of the medications that are given on mass today are to make the skin as non-communicative as possible,

0:08.8

as clear as possible. And that's not the skin's job. Like everything that happens on your skin is a

0:14.8

communication. If your skin is functioning, you're going to get a blemish. If you're aging and living,

0:20.5

you're going to get a wrinkle. Like If you're aging and living, you're going to get a

0:21.3

wrinkle. Like, these aren't health outcomes that we're working towards their aesthetic.

0:36.0

You're listening to Doing It Right with me, Pandora Sykes, a podcast where I talk to experts about the myths, anxieties and trends of modern life.

0:45.3

There's no such thing as the right life. But what might we be getting wrong?

0:50.4

In this series, series three, I'll be exploring sleep, the science of emotions and fast fashion,

0:57.3

and I'll be asking my guests questions like, is baby brain a real thing? Is everything

1:03.6

we've been told about skincare wrong? And why aren't we talking more about dementia? This is

1:10.0

a podcast that asks, what can we do to live life better?

1:14.1

Not just for ourselves, but for everyone.

1:19.3

Jessica Defino is not your regular beauty journalist.

1:22.8

After finding her pieces were regularly rejected from newspapers and magazines for being

1:27.3

too incendiary

1:28.3

or dissing beauty brands who advertised, she founded her newsletter, The Unpublishable, where,

1:34.5

in her own words, she dismantles beauty standards, debunks marketing myths, and explores how beauty

1:40.6

culture impacts people. It now has 40,000 readers. The unpublishable is one of my

1:47.0

favourite newsletters. It's not about which products will give you the devious skin. Jess is a firmly

1:52.9

anti-product beauty reporter, but it gets under the skin, pun intended, of what we see as beautiful.

2:00.3

The Huffington Post once described her as giving the middle finger to the entire beauty industry.

2:05.6

Jess and I discuss why clear skin isn't a health objective but an aesthetic one,

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