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Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

The nuances of grief, with Cariad Lloyd

Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

Pandora Sykes

Society & Culture

4.6 • 835 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

I'm so pleased to bring you this s2 bonus episode sponsored by Sage Appliances, with Cariad Lloyd, which we recorded in front of a live audience a month ago. Cariad is a comedian and writer and the creator of the cult podcast, Griefcast, where she interviews famous people (usually comedians) like Robert Webb, David Baddiel and Sara Pascoe about the human experience of death and grief, and which has won multiple British Podcast Awards.    I'm really interested in grief: why we fear it (especially other people's), why we expect grief to look a certain way, the lack of nuance in our understanding of grief. What I love about Griefcast is the way it democratises grief: there is no one way to grieve. Grief, as Cariad digs into, is not just very sad, it is funny, absurd, weird and life-expanding.   You can listen to a new series of Griefcast now, on all good pod platforms and find Griefcast on Twitter @thegriefcast. Here are some helpful resources from Cariad: The Grief Network Let's Talk About Loss charity Dead Parent Club podcast The New Normal charity Bereavement Room podcast   And some books I recommend: Grief Works by Julia Samuel, Once More We Saw Stars by Jayson Greene, It's Your Loss by Robyn Donaldson and Emma Hopkinson, Languages of Loss by Sasha Bates, Sunset by Jessie Cave and The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion.

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0:00.0

Before we start this episode, I wanted to let you know that I will be in conversation with the brilliant author and broadcaster Candice Brathwaite at the lyric in Soho on the 1st of November, talking all about the themes of this podcast and more.

0:13.2

You can book tickets at feign.com.ukh, forward slash Pandora.

0:19.0

We need to remove the picture of what we think, oh, that's the right way to do it, therefore.

0:23.2

She cried lots, she talked about it, and then we went out drinking.

0:26.8

Great, she's fine.

0:27.9

It's like, that's not how it works.

0:49.3

You're listening to Doing It Right with me, Pandora Sykes, a podcast where I talk to experts about the myths, anxieties and trends of modern life. There's no such thing as the right life, but what might we be getting wrong?

0:54.9

In this series, I'll be exploring the ins and outs of sex, self-care and sadness, and

1:00.8

lobbing big questions at my guests like, could a four-day work week ever really take

1:05.8

off?

1:07.1

Why is society getting lonelier?

1:09.5

And what would a fair justice system look like?

1:12.4

This is a podcast that asks what can we do to live life better?

1:17.0

Not just for ourselves, but for everyone.

1:21.2

I'm so pleased to bring you a little season two extra,

1:24.9

a bonus episode sponsored by Sage Appliances with Carriad Lloyd, which we

1:29.5

recorded in front of a live audience a month ago. Carriad is a comedian and writer and the creator

1:35.4

of the cult podcast Griefcast, where she interviews famous people, often comedians, like

1:41.2

Robert Webb, David Badell and Sarah Pascoe about the human experience of

1:46.0

death and grief. She's also currently writing a book about it. The podcast has won multiple British

1:51.6

podcast awards. I'm so pleased we got to do this one live. Carriad is incredibly funny and

1:58.0

thoughtful, even when she's talking, as she does almost weekly, about something as heavy as grief.

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