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The Oatly Chronicles Part 1: The Big Dairy Problem

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8274 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In 1994, the world’s first oat milk company was born in Sweden. Three decades later, Oatly is on a high-stakes mission to defeat the dairy industry – by growing into the biggest plant-based brand the world has ever seen.  Can a start-up from Malmö save us all through capitalism? This is the first episode in a three-part series, ‘The Oatly Chronicles’. This week we’re asking: just how much damage is our dairy addiction doing to the planet?  This series is funded by Journalismfund Europe and the Allianz Foundation. Thanks for listening. If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠⁠leaving us a review⁠⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify. Credits  This episode was reported, written and produced by Katz Laszlo. Editing came from Katy Lee, as well as Justine Paradis, visiting from NPR’s excellent podcast, Outside/In. Editorial support came from Margot Gibbs, Dominic Kraemer and Wojciech Oleksiak, and mastering, scoring and sound design also came from Wojciech.  Artwork came from favourite illustrator RTiiiKA. Thanks for talking to us: George Monbiot, Thin Lei Win, Elsa Guadarrama, Sonalie Figueiras, Ashley Allen, and Sofia Ehlde.  Special thanks to lovely neighbours Joris Klingen and Thomas van Dijk, for letting us use their very nice studio. You can find their music under Bovenburen. Interesting resources: https://interactive.carbonbrief.org/what-is-the-climate-impact-of-eating-meat-and-dairy/ https://drawdown.org/news/insights/the-powerful-role-of-household-actions-in-solving-climate-change https://theoutline.com/post/8384/sweden-milk-war-oatly ⁠Twitter⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠[email protected]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, Dominic.

0:07.0

Hi, Dominic

0:24.2

Hey Katie

0:25.4

Welcome back

0:27.0

Remember me

0:27.8

I do remember you

0:28.9

You're the one that started this podcast with me right

0:30.8

Apparently so, yeah

0:32.4

This podcast was my baby before

0:34.3

My actual baby was my baby

0:36.5

Long before I went on maternity leave. How's it going?

0:39.8

How are those sleepless nights and blissful days? I hope they're blissful.

0:45.0

Blissful-ish. It's good. It's more like owning a pig than I thought it would be. Like he is

0:52.3

very small and pink and makes sort of snorty noises

0:56.3

and is hungry all the time. But apart from that, it's good. It's going well. I'm very

1:01.6

proud of you and it's really nice to hear your voice. It's nice to hear yours too. How have you been?

1:06.4

I've been enjoying listening to the podcast along with the actual listeners and learning things about Europe

1:11.3

for the last couple of weeks. It's been really fun. And I hear you've had COVID and been dressing

1:16.4

up as a mushroom. Oh yeah. Nothing's changed. But anyway, I guess we should tell people what the

1:22.8

pressing issue is that drew you temporarily out of maternity leave.

1:28.5

Yeah, so I am briefly emerging from Babyland to join you guys for three special episodes

1:35.1

that we have coming up over the next few weeks, three episodes devoted entirely to oat milk.

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