I'm Wes Larson one of the hosts of Tooth and Claw, and this is the official Chimp Crazy

podcast produced in partnership with HBO.

This week we're talking about the second installment of the HBO documentary series, Chimp Crazy,

which you can now stream on Max. We'll recap the episode, have a conversation with the filmmakers,

Eric Good, and Jeremy McBride, and finally an interview with writer Dan

P Lee who wrote Travis the Menace for New York magazine in 2011. I'm here with my

other two co-hosts you guys want to introduce yourselves?

Hey yeah I'm Jeff I was West's Field Tech on a Black Bear project and yeah just good vibes.

Good vibes.

Yeah perfect intro. Mike?

I'm Mike, I'm the producer of Tooth and Claw.

Also a quick spoiler warning, today we're going to be talking about episode two of

chimp crazy, so there'll be spoilers for episode one and two if you haven't heard those you should go or if you haven't watched those you should go watch them and then come back and listen to this podcast so quickly we're going to do our episode to recap and this will be quick and later I'm going to dive into more of this with the filmmakers

We're going to talk about some of the themes this is a quick recap of what happened in episode 2

We learn pretty quickly that Tanya

is suspect number one when it comes to Tanka's disappearance. PETA is chasing down

Tanya asking her to explain and she tells them that Tonka actually had an oversized heart and

that he died of congestive heart failure right before they moved the chimps and she

even gives them vet records to prove this. So then we jump forward two months

and Dwayne who's our undercover proxy director, is visiting

Tanya at her home in Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, and we learned that she's made a lot of money

by brokering exotic animals.

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