Drought by set. Joe presents the House of Rugby together with Guinness.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back and away we go once again. A very warm welcome to House

of Rugby. We're watching by Joe together with our very good friends at Guinness and I like

to think we're on something of a hot streak right now. We had obviously an Aussie test

centurion last week in the great Matt Gitto and this week an English ledge, a man with

his toes on the line of becoming amazingly only England's ever second centurion behind

the great Jason Leonard. It's good evening and a very warm welcome to Mr Ben Young's. How

are you? I'm very well. I'm alright. We're getting used to this lockdown. I'm ticking

along. My wife's taken care of homeschooling and I just sort of get in the way really so

it's going okay. Good. I'm also very excited that we get to question

two which between you and I we've had a little bit of previous in the past not quite managing

to get past first base. I thought there might be a part of you that would go thank you

very much good bye and hang up as we had in South Africa a couple of years ago. Got

to get into the good stuff early. It's very nice to have you with us. How did you reflect

on that actually? I've never spoken to you about that. Was that just a we like so pissed

off with a loss that that's where it came from? Or was it just sort of a week of frustration

boiling over? Do you know what those those are few things actually. For me I always think

trying to be polite and give everyone the time and day but you are you are up there

with the most polite of rugby players. I'll give you that. But do you know what it was a case

of at that time England would lost a few games and you know we were getting a lot of

stick for performances results you know everyone was sort of sticking the knife and that's

what it felt like as a player and it felt like Eddie was getting under pressure all that

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