Hi, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to the astrology podcast.

In this episode I'm going to be talking with astrologer Benjamin Dykes,

and we're going to be going over a new discovery about the possible origins of the exultation signs and degrees in Western astrology.

Hey Ben, thanks for joining me today.

Thanks for having me on.

Yeah, so I'm excited about this. I've been sitting on this since last summer. I think this could be a big discovery. It's still very early, very preliminary, but it's enough that I think it's time to start talking about it.

I've been sitting on it since last summer, and you and I recently had a meeting about it where we went over some of it, and it seemed like some of the math checks out, so this could at least contribute to our understanding of where the signs of exultation and possibly the degrees of exultation come from in Western astrology.

Right.

And that's always been kind of a mysterious thing, right?

Like the domicile scheme is relatively straightforward,

but the exultations have always been a little bit weird I feel like as one of the

questions surrounding like what their basis is in the Western tradition.

Yeah, there's been different theories about, and we'll get into this, there's been different, we can see different patterns.

If we look at the relationship between the sign rulerships and exultations, there's some patterns, but as far as an actual explanation,

there hasn't been a lot that's convincing, even the ones that seem to show

that at one date the planets were in those positions in some side aerial zodiac.

Right.

Yeah, so a bunch of different theories have been put forward.

Ptolemy even has like a partial explanation that looks okay at first but then it kind of breaks down and you're not sure what he's drawing that from and it doesn't seem to check out.

So the genesis of this discussion today was last summer the long awaited translation of the great introduction by

Abumashar, a translation of that, thatth century Arabic text was finally published by Charles Burnett and Kigi Yamamoto.

And it seems like it came out sometime last summer. I received my copy on July 30th, 2019, and I think you received yours probably like a week

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