The Apollo program took humanity to the moon, but not everyone who helped us get there

got the recognition that they deserved. This week on Planetary Radio.

I'm Sarah al-Ahmad of the Planetary Society, with more of the human adventure across our solar system and beyond.

This episode, we're joined by Joanne Higgins, host of the podcast, L.A. Made the Other Moonshot.

She shares the powerful and largely untold stories of black engineers who helps send astronauts to the moon,

while navigating systemic racism back here on Earth.

Then a quick update from Casey Dreyer, our Chief of Space Policy,

on the latest developments impacting NASA's future. And in What's Up, Bruce Betts and I explore

some of the Apollo-era innovations that are still shaping the technologies that we rely on today.

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When we talk about the Apollo program, we often think of astronauts, rockets, and big moments

of triumph. But the reality behind the success was far more complex, and some of the people

who helped make it possible were left out of the history books. A new four-part podcast series

from LAist Studios called LA Made

the Other Moonshot shares some of this untold history. It tells the stories of three black

aerospace engineers, Charlie Cheatham, Nate Lavert, and Shelby Jacobs, who helped send humans

to the moon while facing racism, exclusion, and under recognition in their daily lives and careers.

Before we jump into our conversation, a quick note. If you're going to listen to L.A. Made the Other Moonshot,

listener discretion is advised. The podcast we're about to discuss includes some strong language and references to discrimination and racism.

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