In human life and in the history of faith, I think love has a quality of a bedrock reality we discover,

adventures, travelers, each of us, only fitfully apprehending its potential.

I take some solace in the fact that I'm not alone in this intuition,

that the reality of evil, of injustice, of suffering notwithstanding, at the center of

this existence is a heart beating with love. That's how Desmond Tutu put it to me, with greater

authority than mine, from a life that has known extremes of human cruelty one to another.

I'm also inspired and persuaded by the main game warden chaplain Kate Bracierp.

She became Unitarian Universalist in adulthood and says that she, like some scientists I know,

is religious but not spiritual. For her, this means that the idea that God is love has

nothing to do with beliefs or transcendence and everything

to do with actions and people.

This is becoming wise, an inquiry into the mystery and the art of living.

I'm Krista Tippett.

There's this notion, a Tibetan notion that rings true for you, that whether we know it or not,

we're spending our whole lives preparing for our death.

But a lot of the cases you deal with are people who are experiencing the death of people they love.

And I don't think any of us feel like we can prepare for that or that the universe even makes sense if we're

supposed to.

Right.

That's why it's a good thing we don't have to consciously prepare.

Right.

And I mean, I wondered if you would tell the story of Christina and of Anna Love.

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