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🗓️ 12 February 2025
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In this episode, Whitney is joined by UH contributor Max Jones to discuss the influence of the PayPal Mafia's Peter Thiel on Trump's HHS, the likely policies of a RFK-led HHS, and what the expansion of the contracts between HHS and the Thiel-founded Palantir portend for the expansion of the surveillance state.
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Originally published 02/10/25.
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0:00.0 | Hey and welcome to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host Whitney Webb. Donald Trump has returned to the White House and since then, drastic changes have manifested as a very clear effort to reorder the U.S. government takes shape. Many Trump supporters are related, arguing that true changes come, that corruption and fraud are being rooted out, and that the quote unquote deep state is being dismantled before our eyes while a dismantling a government infrastructure some |
0:42.2 | more controversial than others is certainly happening few of the cheerleaders are taking the time to |
0:47.1 | consider what may be erected in its place and if it will really manifest in something better than the |
0:52.5 | previous system. |
1:03.8 | Part of the reason for this disinterest, perhaps, lies in the celebrity status of many in the big tech click that is shaping this demolition of old structures and the erecting of new ones. |
1:12.5 | That click, often referred to as the PayPal Mafia, have carefully crafted a public image of libertarianism with a few exceptions, and through their significant patronage of so-called independent media, have successfully manufactured trust among |
1:17.8 | many long time and also recent Trump voters, with some calling these former PayPal employees, |
1:23.2 | quote-unquote, our elites. Behind this carefully crafted image lies something different, however. |
1:29.6 | From CIA-linked companies like Palantir expanding their role at the core of the |
1:33.8 | mass surveillance state to the PayPal Mafia's longstanding ambition to create a, quote, unquote, |
1:38.6 | new world currency, many of the same policies that once recently incensed the right are cited |
1:44.0 | to now be implemented by this faction of big tech who have cloaked themselves in free market in America First rhetoric. |
1:51.0 | To explore this reality, the Unlimited Hangout podcast is beginning its first ever series entitled The PayPal Presidency, to explore the way in which the PayPal Mafia is molding government policy, as well as |
2:02.1 | some of the often overlooked ambitions of its members. |
2:06.4 | In this first installment, we will look at this group's ambitions for health care and |
2:10.1 | biotechnology. |
2:11.4 | Many Trump voters this cycle embrace the quote-unquote make America healthy again or |
2:15.9 | MAHA movement, which initially supported a rejection of the experimental biotech products rolled out during the COVID era, as well as a desire to extricate government health care regulation from the pharmaceutical industry. |
2:28.4 | While it appears that MAHA's de facto champion, Robert F. Kennedy, is slated to become of HHS, the Department of Health and Human |
2:34.6 | Services. The department is poised to approve a slate of experimental products via deregulation, |
2:40.8 | to introduce biosurveillance regimes that would result in mass biodata mining, and to expand |
2:46.1 | Palantiers already massive and invasive contracts with HHS. |
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