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First Things Podcast

The Poetry of Opera

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In the ​latest installment of the ongoing interview series with contributing editor Mark Bauerlein, Dana Gioia joins in to discuss his new book, “Weep, Shudder, Die: On Opera and Poetry.” Donate now at www.firstthings.com/campaign Intro music by Jack Bauerlein.

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0:00.0

Dana Joy is with us again, and I believe he is well enough known to our audience to need no introduction, save for a word of advice that people go out and buy the latest volume of poems,

0:22.9

Meet Me at the Lighthouse, which we covered several months ago.

0:26.2

Today, we discuss a new volume of essays on poetry, yes, and on another art form, opera.

0:32.0

Welcome, Dana.

0:33.5

Good to be here, Mark.

0:35.3

First, you're not just an appreciator of opera.

0:39.3

You're a creator of it.

0:40.7

Give us the four libretti that you've written in case people wish to look them up.

0:47.1

Well, I am a creator of opera, although that's exactly the point of the book, because for some people,

0:56.5

the words of an opera are so insignificant as to be invisible or detrimental. I argue against this,

1:06.0

and I would offer, to follow your question, as my first piece of evidence for the court of opinion

1:13.1

that I've written a number of opera libretties. My first libretto was called Nass Ferratu,

1:19.6

which vampire fans will recognize as the title of the most famous silent vampire film

1:26.9

that was a German film.

1:32.3

It's actually being refilmed now for the third time in Hollywood.

1:37.5

And I did that with the composer Alva Henderson.

1:39.8

And I made what was a deeply Catholic opera.

1:48.1

As I looked at the movie, I realized it had the structure of a Belconto tragedy, of a woman trapped, a strong woman, trapped in a situation from which there was no escape.

2:02.1

And Nosfarra was written with Alva Henderson,

2:05.5

and it's been put on about half a dozen times.

2:07.8

It has been recorded.

2:09.2

My second opera was with the composer Paul Salerni,

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