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I'm Tanya Mosley.

California Governor Gavin Newsom recently joined The Manosphere, the world of political

podcasts, streams, and YouTube channels, where young men have become the new MAGA vanguard.

This is Gavin Newsom.

And this is Steve Bannon.

And this is Michael Savage.

And this is Charlie Kirk.

The Democratic governor says the purpose of his new podcast is to have unfiltered conversations with people he doesn't always agree with.

And so far he's had on far-right media stars, many of whom were instrumental in Donald Trump winning the election.

Well, my guest today, the New Yorker staff writer Andrew Morantz, looks at how Democrats are attempting to win back the support of young men in America, those they lost during the 2024 election.

And for his piece, Morant spent time with several high-profile podcasters and streamers, like Hassan

Piker, a leftist star on the live stream platform Twitch with more than

three million followers who's known for modeling modern masculinity with progressive politics.

Morantz's article, The Battle for the Bros. Young men have gone MAGA. Can the Left Win Them Back?

Appears in the current copy of The New Yorker. And Andrew Morantz, welcome

back to the show. Thank you so much, Tanya. So good to be back. Yeah, so as we just heard so far,

California Governor Gavin Newsom has had on a couple of right-wing notables, including activist Charlie

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