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The quirky history (and future) of papal conclaves

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Few events inspire a media spectacle quite like the election of a pope. The white smoke, cardinals locked in the Sistine Chapel, secret ballots and ancient rules—it’s catnip for secular and Catholic journalists alike. But how did these customs evolve—and how might they change in the future? To find out, Zac and Ashley talk with Miles Pattenden, a historian, expert in the history of papal conclaves and the author of Electing the Pope in Early Modern Italy, 1450-1700. They discuss: How the election of popes evolved from St. Peter to today The role of the Holy Spirit—and politicking—inside conclaves And whether the secrecy of conclaves can survive in a modern world that prizes transparency In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss a new Justice Department investigation into last year’s leaked F.B.I. memo about the potential domestic threat posed by “traditional Catholics.” Plus, in a talk about forgiveness, a Michigan bishop called on Catholics not to “hate” politicians like Joe Biden—and then called the president stupid. Want to advertise your school, ministry program, book or anything else on Jesuitical? Send us an email at [email protected] Links from the show: No Bias Found in F.B.I. Report on Catholic Extremists Biden ‘doesn't understand the Catholic faith,’ bishop says: ‘I’m not angry at him, he’s just stupid’ Electing the Pope in Early Modern Italy, 1450-1700, by Miles Pattenden MilesPattenden.com What’s on tap? Amaro Spritz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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dot Ireland Retreates.

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com. Hello and welcome to Jesuitical a podcast from American Media for Saints and

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sinners you can join us each week for honest conversations about the Catholic

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Church and our world today, often over drinks. I'm Ashley McKinless and I'm joined by

0:59.2

Zach Davis. Great to be with you Ashley. I want to thank you publicly for your free labor that you offered this weekend in my backyard.

1:05.8

Oh, you are so welcome. I have to say so Zach unlike most New Yorkers has a really nice back well

1:11.2

It wasn't nice before now. It's a really nice backyard well it wasn't nice before now it's a really nice

1:13.5

backyard but it's a abnormally large backyard for Brooklyn which means come

1:18.3

springtime there's some there's some mulch in to do lots of mulch I will say like any person who lives in any other part of the country would look at this backyard and be like that's the

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tiniest thing I've ever seen. But you know for New Yorkers you know a little bit of outdoor space is really nice.

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And I will say as someone who works in, you know, on a laptop,

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like getting your hands dirty and seeing the fruits of your labor

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is really satisfying.

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