The Hey, thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast. Our guests today is someone I truly enjoy

listening to and talking with. Probably more listening to than talking with because

when you talk to someone they realize that you really don't know that much you don't really know that much about what you're talking about.

I mean you can kind of fake it while you're listening.

It's hard for me to fake it while you're listening.

It's hard for me to fake it while I'm actually in a conversation.

He's a legal scholar.

I was a courtroom lawyer, country courtroom lawyer, he's a true legal scholar.

But not just having a wonderful legal mind, you have to be able to translate it into

practical words, so a jury or an audience or a podcast audience can understand it.

He also sees this intersection, a collision sometimes a collision, sometimes, but an intersection

that occurs between law and politics.

He is the professor, as I call him, Jonathan Turley.

Welcome, professor.

I'm so grateful to you for being with us.

Well, you're very kind, Trey. Thank you. It's always a pleasure to be with you.

We're going to start where else in the courtroom and I view you as someone who is equally proficient in civil and criminal law.

So I won't know whether the answers to any of your civil questions are accurate or not.

I don't, I won't know if they are or not, but if I ask you

one that's outside your area of expertise, you just tell me. I want to start in the New York Civil

Courtroom. The President's expected I want to start in the New York civil courtroom.

The president is expected to testify this week, his children, some of them have already

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