Welcome to The Rest is Classified, Goalhanger's latest podcast which takes you behind the scenes of some of the great moments in the history of spies and espionage.

From the Hunt for Bidnardin, North Korean Secret Services, robbing banks, right back to the role of the CIA and Watergate, as well as Kim Filby in the Cambridge Five.

I'm David McCloskey. I'm a former CIA analyst, now turned spy novelist. I've written for

the president's daily brief, worked at CIA headquarters at Langley and in field stations

around the Middle East, and I've gone from writing in the espionage business to writing

about the espionage business in spy novels that really try to bring this world to life.

I'm Gordon Carrera. For 20 years as a BBC security correspondent, I covered the biggest spy stories in the world.

From the 9-11 terrorist attacks through the Iraq War, the Edward Snowden leaks,

the Russian poisonings of Alexander Lipinenko, and Sergei Scripal, right up to the Russian invasion

of Ukraine.

We know how this world works.

We've been in the room when the big decisions are being made, and we can take you there.

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