The Revolution Will Be Tweeted: Nellie Bowles reports from the morning after.

The Unspeakable Podcast

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.8 • 784 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 13 minutes

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You may know Nellie Bowles from TGIF, her popular news roundup in The Free Press. Before that, she reported on Silicon Valley for The New York Times.

Now she’s out with her first book, Morning After The Revolution: Dispatches From The Wrong Side Of History. Filled with keenly observed details about the cultural and political battles of the last couple of years, it’s also an honest appraisal of her own political evolution. A self-described “lesbian from San Francisco lesbian who held all the values associated with that,” Nellie is now among those considered non-grata by progressives—her marriage to Bari Weiss would attest to that—and in this conversation, she talks about coming to terms with that as well as her reporting on everything from Antifa militants to the incel movement. She also talks about her own past life as a member of the progressive purity police.

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Nellie Bowles is a writer living in Los Angeles. Previously, she was a correspondent at The New York Times where, as part of a team, she won the Gerald Loeb Award in Investigations and the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Journalism Award. Now she is working with her wife to build The Free Press, a new media company.

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0:00.0	I assumed that the world I was entering was what it said it was.
0:07.6	I assumed that it was about reason and logic and that when people said they wanted to make life
0:14.0	better for black Americans, that that's what they meant.
0:17.1	And that when people said that they wanted to be empathy driven and make things better for, let's say, in San Francisco, this is very relevant, homeless folks on the street, that that's what they meant and that that's truly what they were trying to do.
0:33.3	Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dom. My guest is Nellie Bowles.
0:39.3	You might know her best from TGIF, the weekly news roundup in the free press that is at
0:45.2	once informative and reliable and also a little like the onion, the old onion, the funny onion.
0:52.2	Nellie has a new book out, her first book. It's called Morning
0:55.5	After the Revolution, Dispatches from the Wrong Side of History, and it's filled with keenly
1:01.1	observed details and sharp insights about the cultural and political battles of the last couple of
1:06.0	years. It's also an honest appraisal of her own political evolution, a self-described lesbian from San Francisco who held all the values associated with that,
1:16.3	Nellie is now among those considered non-grada by many progressives.
1:20.7	Her marriage to Barry Weiss would attest to that.
1:23.0	And in this conversation, she talks about coming to terms with that,
1:26.7	as well as her reporting on everything from Antifa militants to the in-cell movement.
1:31.8	Paying subscribers to the substack, hear the whole thing.
1:35.2	If you are not yet a paying subscriber, you're going to hear a portion before I cut you off.
1:39.5	To keep that from happening, go to megandom.substack.com. With that, here is my conversation with Nellie Bowles.
1:52.4	Nellie Bulls, welcome to the unspeakable. Megan Dom, it is a pleasure to be here.
1:58.0	You have done something that I know firsthand is incredibly difficult to do.
2:02.7	You have written a book about the culture wars while they are going on. In many cases, in real time.
2:10.9	You cover a lot of ground here. You talk about what it was like to work at the New York Times.
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