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UK. This is five live boxing.

So today I've got on the road. I'm in Rayna Messix. I'm in a gym run by Mark Tips and also run by his father Jimmy, the legendary gym.

This is the gym where Johnny Fisher

trains. Johnny Fisher fights Alan the Savage Babich this Saturday at the

Copper Box. It's an intriguing heavyweight fight Fisher, well he's intriguing as well.

So I want to go in and sit down. Now I'll warn you now, this is going to be a very fast pod.

I'm not joking. We're going to do it in real time. We're going to go in. We're going to do it. We're going to get out.

I'm Steve Bunce and this, John is just, I know he's just finished all his proper work,

the sparring and the pad work, the stuff with you Mark.

He's moving around now now I understand that's not his own bag because

his own bag's a bit wet on the floor so he's having to use someone else's bag. The cleaners

come in a little bit late and wet and the floor's a little bit damp so we don't know accidents.

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