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10% Happier with Dan Harris

The Science Of Burnout — And How To Recharge From Stress | Kristin Neff and Christopher Germer

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.612.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Burnout is on the rise. Two experts show us how to combat it.


Dr. Kristin Neff is an Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. She is a pioneer in the field of self-compassion research, conducting the first empirical studies on self-compassion more than twenty years ago. 


Christopher Germer is a clinical psychologist and lecturer on psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He also co-developed a highly impactful program called Mindful Self-Compassion, which has been taught to over 100,000 people across the world.


This episode is part of our monthlong Do Life Better series. 


We talk about:

  • How to know if you are burnt out
  • The three main symptoms of burnout, their causes, and their health consequences
  • The three components of self-compassion and how they can help 
  • The inner critic and why we kick our own asses
  • How to draw appropriate boundaries with your boss
  • The difference between tender and fierce self-compassion
  • Tools for dealing with perfectionism without letting go of high standards


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0:00.0

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0:04.7

Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.

0:14.0

This is the 10% Happier podcast.

0:16.8

I'm Dan Harris.

0:20.3

Music I'm Dan Harris.

0:31.2

Hello, my fellow suffering beings, how are we doing today?

0:40.0

Burnout characterized by chronic workplace stress that is not effectively managed is, I am sad to say, on the rise.

0:46.1

A recent study found 22% of American workers rated their level of burnout as high or very high.

0:52.2

And globally, according to another survey, levels of burnout are at 43%. So what do we do about this? Well, today we've got two of the pioneers in the field

0:57.0

of self-compassion. That is a term that, as I have often joked, can sound variously soft or gauzy or

1:05.6

vaguely auto-erotic, but there is hard data suggesting that self-compassion can have compelling,

1:12.3

psychological, physiological, and even behavioral impacts. And my guests today have been

1:18.3

responsible for leading many of those studies. These two humans have had a huge impact on

1:24.1

my thinking about human flourishing and my own personal well-being. And they've recently put out a book

1:30.0

called Mindful Self-Compassion for Burnout, Tools to Help You Recharge when You Are Overwhelmed by Stress.

1:37.7

Said guests are Dr. Kristen Neff, an associate professor of education psychology at the University of

1:44.1

Texas at Austin,

1:45.4

and her longtime compadre Christopher Gürmer, Ph.D., a clinical psychologist and lecturer on

1:51.5

psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School. We talk about how to know if you are burnt out,

1:58.0

the three main symptoms of burnout, their causes and their health consequences,

2:02.7

the three components of self-compassion and how they can help here, the inner critic and why

2:07.3

we kick our own asses, how to draw appropriate boundaries with your boss, the difference between

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