Tortoise.

Just a warning before we start.

This episode contains references to child abuse and to sexual assault.

I cannot believe it. I found it.

Will you read me the email you sent her?

Yes.

This is so surreal.

I'm just going to grab my glasses.

I'm a bit on the blind side of life.

I can not believe it.

There's going to be lots of stuff about Anne too.

Are you ready?

I'm ready.

I'm ready. I'm with Phippsey in her East London flat. We're sitting at her kitchen table and she's

scrolling through old emails on her laptop from the time in her life that she spent with the

Heeler and Craig. We recorded our conversation over a couple of days in the

autumn of 2023. Like everyone I've talked to for this investigation, she had a lot to get off her chest.

It's not really the sort of story you can fit into one afternoon. It was the first time she'd really relived her experience in this way.

She told family and friends but never in this depth. So once she started, I was part of a holistic therapy cult, the words began to pour out.

And on my second visit, she discovered something she thought she'd lost.

Her name is Anne Craig Craig and she tells people that

she breaks them down and builds them back together. It's an email she wrote detailing

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