The SECRET to Finding Love After 35?—Elizabeth Day & Mel Schilling
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🗓️ 11 March 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode of The Therapy Crouch, Abbey and Peter are joined by two very special guests—award-winning author and How to Fail podcast host Elizabeth Day and renowned relationship expert and Married at First Sight star Mel Schilling.
With love, dating, and relationships on the agenda, the gang dives deep into the highs and horrors of modern romance. Elizabeth and Mel share their unique love stories—including both meeting their husbands online at the age of 39—and unpack the wild world of dating apps, the psychology behind toxic relationships, and why so many people settle for the wrong partner.
Abbey and Peter open up about their own relationship dynamics, while Mel and Elizabeth put them under the microscope with some expert-level couple analysis.
And in this week’s Agony Abs, things take a turn for the unexpected—should you be worried if your partner wants you to dress as a burglar? And what do you do if you receive an anonymous letter claiming your husband is cheating?
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00:00:00 – Intro
00:02:24 – Meeting their husbands online at 39
00:04:10 – Why dating apps make modern love disposable
00:10:10 – The importance of ‘dating yourself’ first
00:17:33 – Are you settling in your relationship?
00:27:03 – Why safety is the most romantic thing in a relationship
00:30:32 – The struggle of choosing ‘nice guys’ over ‘bad boys’
00:34:35 – How Abbey and Peter argue—expert analysis
00:42:15 – Agony Abs: My boyfriend wants me to dress like a burglar?!
00:47:12 – Agony Abs: I got an anonymous letter saying my husband is cheating…
00:50:41 – How to really know if your partner is lying
00:55:06 – Does marriage kill attraction?
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is sponsored by Uber Eats, our go-to app for when we've done enough. |
| 0:05.2 | You're that feeling when you've just had enough, you need just a little downtime. |
| 0:08.5 | Well, it's like when I've had a late one covering a midweek game, well, let's be honest, chasing the kids around the house. |
| 0:12.8 | I'm absolutely knacker, babe. |
| 0:14.5 | Well, you're telling me, your idea of work is just playing 18 holes. Try running a busy house, juggling the school runs and then getting |
| 0:21.8 | glammed up for an event. That's what I've definitely done enough of. I just want to put my feet up. |
| 0:27.5 | Alright babe, it's not competition. It's fair to say we've both done enough. Definitely. And when I've |
| 0:32.3 | had a busy day, all I want to do is keep things easy and save time. If you want a proper rest |
| 0:36.9 | and recovery evening, |
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| 0:43.1 | a hot bath, get in front of the TV, some good food. What are you thinking? I haven't had an Indian |
| 0:48.0 | for ages. Little lamb sag, popadoms, onion salad. Maybe a little madras. |
| 0:54.8 | I like to dip in your madras. |
| 0:56.8 | I feel like we're never like on the same page though because I'm fancy Chinese. |
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| 1:07.2 | I'm going to feel like a new woman. |
| 1:09.1 | I hope so. When you've done enough, order some food on Uber Eats. |
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