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The Shadow

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NHPR

True Crime, Documentary, News, Society & Culture

4.4803 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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What is “the 13th step,” and why does it matter? It all starts with understanding what it’s like to be in the earliest days of recovery. We meet two women who say they were harassed during early recovery. And we meet the man who allegedly harassed them – the founder of New Hampshire’s largest addiction treatment network.

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0:00.0

So you get there, what do you remember?

0:11.0

Green Mountain is a completely different vibe that I'm used to.

0:16.4

It didn't feel like treatment.

0:19.5

But I remember I had my first like real God moment there because the view is incredible.

0:25.6

Actually, it was really cool.

0:29.6

One time, somebody was having a really tough time.

0:32.6

And so, like, we all had the idea, like, hey, Mary Kate, can go down to um the helicopter landing pad and watch the sunset

0:40.1

and she brought us down we all screamed from the mountain and it felt so good it was like a movie

0:45.4

like we just sat there and screamed it was really cool that was really cool and i remember that moment

0:51.0

i was like if there if i didn't believe in god before watching the sunset and this view, I do now.

0:57.7

It was like that.

0:58.5

Like, it hit me.

0:59.4

You know what I mean?

0:59.9

Because it's like, I'm, I didn't make that.

1:01.7

I didn't make the sun.

1:02.7

I don't, you know, water the trees every day.

1:05.1

Like, again, that spirituality is just like finding anything that's bigger than me. And it was very easy to see something larger than me in front of me there.

1:13.7

You know?

1:17.0

Did you like thinking about all this stuff again?

1:20.3

Yeah.

1:21.2

No, it is.

1:22.0

It's good because I, you know, for the last few years thinking of Great Mountain,

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