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From the BBC's Investigations podcast World of Secrets, here's the sixth episode of our guest

season, the $6 billion gold scam from the BBC World Service and CBC. Over to Suzanne Wilton.

First, a warning.

The following episode contains difficult subject matter, including references to suicide.

In the immediate aftermath of de Guzman's fall, things were chaotic.

Lawyer Tom Ajame heard here in the Break's tapes was trying to investigate what had happened

on behalf of Break's shareholders.

Do you have an active theory about the Guzman?

I really don't.

I mean, just speculation at this point, from what I've talked to all my people about

Indonesia, about a lot of people that I know, think suicide and some possibly think

he was killed.

Freeport President Jim Bob Moffitt needed time to find out exactly what had been going on at

Bouseng.

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