Lectury, today's song is from one of the greatest bands in alternative rock history and one of the best albums of the 1990s.

That's right, D'allel. And if you've seen this band perform live recently, chances are they close their set with this epic rock anthem.

That's right. It's one song, and that song is Cherop Rock by The Smashing Pumpkins.

I'm actor, writer-director, and sometimes DJ Diallo Riddle. And I'm producer, writer, director, and sometimes DJ Diallo Riddle.

And I'm producer, DJ, songwriter, and musicologist luxury, aka the guy who whispers

interpolation on the internet.

So, hey, we're going back, we're putting on our flannel shirts.

We are watching Seinfeld in real time.

It is the 90s, and I think we have to just embrace our alternative rock ids.

That's right.

This is the episode where we're talking about...

It is an id thing, isn't it?

Yeah.

It's all ed, yeah.

We're talking about smashing pumpkins.

And before we dive into the song, let's scale back a bit.

I know that the smashing pumpkins are huge for both of us.

But what music memories do you have of the pumpkins and how have they influenced you?

I just want to say this is one of these bands that it was a moment in time that really did a lot of like, I was going to say damage to my psyche, but like it's just impacted me greatly.

The sound, the lyrics, everything about them

was really important. I'll never forget the first time I heard them. I was a proud member of the

subpop singles club, which was the record label subpop that, you know, Nirvana and Mudhoney.

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