The Sobering of the Israeli Left - with Dr. Einat Wilf

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🗓️ 15 March 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Since October 7, we have heard from more and more friends in Israel who came of age -- politically -- in the 1990s. Some of these friends were key political figures on the Israeli Left and were committed to working on a two-state solution as the final resolution to achieve regional peace. Dr. Einat Wilf joins us to discuss the sobering of many of these figures and what it means for Israel's future. Einat also discusses an essay she penned for Sapir journal about the tendency of activists in other countries to project their political debates on Israel -- something happening today -- however disconnected from Israel those debates may be. Her essay is called "How Not to Think About the Conflict" and it can be found here: https://sapirjournal.org/social-justice/2021/04/how-not-to-think-about-the-conflict/ Einat was born and raised in Israel. She was an Intelligence Officer in the IDF. She has worked for McKinsey. She was Foreign Policy Advisor to Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres and an advisor to Yossi Beilin, who was Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs. Dr. Wilf was a member of the Israeli Parliament (the Knesset) in the early 2010s, where she served as Chair of the Education Committee and Member of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. She has a BA from Harvard, an MBA from INSEAD in France, and a PhD in Political Science from the University of Cambridge. She was a Visiting Professor at Georgetown University and is a lecturer at Reichman University in Israel. Einat is the author of seven books that explore key issues in Israeli society. “We Should All Be Zionists“, published in 2022, brings together her essays from the past four years on Israel, Zionism and the path to peace; and she co-authored “The War of Return: How Western Indulgence of the Palestinian Dream Has Obstructed the Path to Peace”, which was published in 2020. "THE WAR OF RETURN" -- https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-war-of-return-adi-schwartz/1131959248?ean=9781250364845

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0:00.0	A fundamental notion of the Israeli left is that there is a difference to the outside world
0:07.4	and to the Palestinians between Israel and its sovereign territory, so within the pre- 1967 ceasefire lines, and between the
0:17.1	territories, the settlers.
0:19.2	One is legitimate, one is illegitimate, and the only thing we need to do is to go back to those legitimate
0:27.0	borders because there is no question about the legitimacy of that part of Israel. And the understanding that both on the
0:36.2	Palestinian side and in the rising anti-Zionist left, there is no legitimacy for a Jewish state in any borders, that is something that for
0:47.5	a lot of people on the left they came to terms with after October 7th. It's midnight on March 14th here in New York City. It's midnight in Israel as
1:06.8	Israelis turn to March 15th. Since October 7th I have been hearing from more and more of my friends in Israel who came
1:16.2	of age politically and ideologically in the 1990s, people who have always been active on the Israeli left and were committed to a
1:25.9	two-state solution as the permanent resolution to achieve peace for Israel and
1:31.6	Israel's Palestinian neighbors. The dialogue among many of these
1:36.8	Israelis is how October 7th has, among other things, sobered them up to a new reality. To help us understand
1:45.4	what's happening in this intra-left conversation, Dr. Annot Wilf joins us. She was
1:52.0	born and raised in Israel. In Jerusalem, she now lives in Tel Aviv.
1:55.9	She was an intelligence officer in the IDF. In addition to working in the private sector for
2:01.5	McKinsey and not was a foreign policy advisor to
2:05.1	vice prime minister at the time, Shimon Perez and she was an advisor to Josie
2:09.9	Baylon who at the time was deputy minister of Foreign Affairs and was the architect of the Oslo Accords that was supposed to be the framework for a permanent two-state solution.
2:21.0	Dr. A. Nutt-Wulf was also a member of the Israeli Parliament, the Caneset in the early 2010s,
2:26.6	she served as the chair of the Education Committee and a member of the Foreign Affairs and Defense
2:31.5	Committee.
2:32.6	And that has a BA from Harvard, an MBA from Inciad
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