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The Indicator from Planet Money

The spat over VAT

The Indicator from Planet Money

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πŸ—“οΈ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

If you've ever passed through airport customs overseas and been refunded a VAT β€” or value added tax β€” for souvenirs, you've benefited from the VAT system. But President Trump says VAT is unfair to the U.S. On today's episode, we learn what VAT is and what it isn't.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:11.7

This is the indicated from planet money. I'm Patty Hirsch. And I'm Adrienne Ma. It's been a couple

0:17.0

weeks since President Trump declared a national emergency due to the trade and economic practices of America's trading partners. Since then, we have had some whiplash.

0:26.6

He's said that again. Yeah, Trump said he'd keep some tariffs, but he'd pause others and also

0:32.3

crank up the tariff heat on China. Yeah, it's been a bewildering time. And there's one area that's still

0:38.3

making economists and investors particularly puzzled, the focus of the Trump administration

0:43.7

on value-added tax, VAT or VAT for short. Trump's order calls VAT a non-tariff barrier to trade

0:52.8

that distorts the market.

0:54.7

Now, this is not what most economists think.

0:58.1

Most economists say that that is simply the equivalent of a sales tax,

1:02.2

which, just like in the U.S., everybody pays regardless of where the goods came from.

1:07.0

But this has not stopped the Trump administration from using VAT as a reason to slap tariffs on America's trading partners.

1:15.1

So on today's show, we'll examine the spat over VAT. We'll explain what it is and why Trump isn't happy about it.

1:22.7

That's coming up after the break.

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