Hey friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology and around my guest today is Dr.

Jumartisbee, who has a PhD from University of Mississippi.

He's the author of the New York Times Best Seller, The Color of Compromise, and the award-winning

book How to Fight Racism, and the recently released book, The Spirit of Justice, which forms the background for our conversation today.

Jamar is a historian who studies race, religion, and social movements in the 20th century.

And he serves as a professor at Simmons College of Kentucky, a historically black college.

Jamar is the founding co-host of the Past the Mike podcast and you can follow his work through a subset

sub stack newsletter footnotes and on social media at at Jamar Tisbee. This conversation was awesome. I just love

Jamars. Not only is historic knowledge and wisdom, but just his humility as you'll

see in how he goes about these really difficult conversations.

So please welcome to the show, back to the show, the one and only, Dr.

DeMar Tiske. Jamere, how are you this wonderful September morning?

Well, I'm doing well. As as we record it is the official book

launch day of my latest book the Spirit of Justice true stories of faith

race and resistance and I got to say yours was at the top of my list of podcasts to hop on in this season

so I really appreciate you having me.

Well my audience has a love hate relationship with me because they're very bookish and I often have

authors on and they say they they just keep buying more more books when I mean books

absolutely well I want to add a personal more books. There's still.

Well, I want to add a personal, I started this a few days ago,

so I haven't read the whole thing,

but I am in for my youtubers, this is the book right here,

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