Let's play a game which might help throw a little bit of light on why we still use it, what's important and what to do next. Hello, hello and welcome back to Art Juice.

This is honest, generous and humorous conversations that will feed your creative soul and get you thinking with me Alice Sheridan and today Louise is having her new year break in New York.

So I am joined by my friend, co-worker, lovely help within connected artist membership and her own business owner, mentor, all sorts of things.

Welcome back, Joe McCarthy.

Now, you will have heard Joe previously

on episode 137, if you haven't heard that one one listen back because we do a little bit of the intro to what

Joe is all about. But today we just started having a chat back in December about how we feel about Instagram at the moment,

how we're using it, what's changed and I just massively put the brakes on and said,a whoa whoa whoa stop let's do this in January and let's do it as a bit of a

podcast so that's what you're going to listen into you're going to listen into us just having a chat about Instagram.

Hello Joe, how was Christmas? How are you feeling?

I'm fine Alice, thank you. It's great to be back on the podcast thank you for having me

I'm good I'm in a good mood sun is shining here in my patch of North Wales I'm

going on holiday next week planning to disconnect from all things tech including

Instagram the holidays were lovely saw some old friends very precious times and actually don't have the kind of new year, new me vibe going on, energy,

but I am excited about the unfolding of the year ahead. I can see good things on the horizon.

Yeah, and this idea of disconnecting, it's funny, isn't it?

because we're, you know, we come out of Christmas and I think everybody takes a pause. I mean, honestly, Australians listening, I don't know how you do it because Christmas and winter, it's such a nice time to we really let everything slow down and I think it is the one time,

maybe because everybody does it together a little bit, but I think we really do put a pause on and I know we're busy on other things but it's

it's always a change of pace and it's always so interesting what comes out of that but with you and

Instagram you do you delete the whole app every weekend I I try to yeah you know I I can be a little bit self-righteous about it where I kind of say you know by

and then about two hours later I think oh no I was in the middle of a chat or, you know, oh no, I saved that recipe that I need or at the moment we're renovating a place and, you know, I saved that paint color or something. and so Instagram is actually for me quite an admin center you know it is somewhere that I save a lot of resources and so yeah sometimes I do I do find myself going back on but I do purposely try to keep it in its place

and and particularly at weekends that's the time for me just to not be on it yeah

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