The State of Partisanship
We the People
National Constitution Center
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 March 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, friends. I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, |
| 0:07.7 | and welcome to We the People, weekly show of constitutional debate. |
| 0:11.6 | The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit, chartered by Congress to increase awareness |
| 0:16.8 | and understanding of the Constitution among the American people. |
| 0:20.6 | In this episode, I'm joined |
| 0:22.1 | by Jonathan Rauch, author of Cross Purpurposes, Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy, |
| 0:28.3 | and Julian Zelizer, author of In Defense of Partizanship, for a wide-ranging discussion about their |
| 0:33.9 | new books. We discuss the relationship between religion and civic participation. |
| 0:43.7 | We explore the evolution of our party system, and we discuss how we can achieve a healthier civic life. Enjoy the show. Welcome, Jonathan, Julian. I think your two books together will |
| 0:51.7 | really cast crucial light on a central question and the interest |
| 0:56.0 | in it is obvious from a large crowd that's turned out to hear this discussion tonight. What are the |
| 1:01.8 | sources and potential cures of partisanship in America? And Jonathan, you discuss it in the context |
| 1:09.4 | of religious partisanship and polarization and Julian in the context of political polarization. |
| 1:16.5 | Jonathan, let's start with you. I was sharing before we got on that a few weeks ago, I went to Brigham Young University and talked to 5,000 undergraduates in their weekly convening at the invitation of the dean. |
| 1:29.9 | I invited them to stand and recite together the Mormon oath that they take where they recite |
| 1:36.5 | the virtues that they pledged to achieve in their daily lives. It was incredibly moving to hear |
| 1:43.2 | 5,000 people recite the virtues |
| 1:46.4 | in 20 languages, which they take as part of their oaths, and just a remarkable and powerful |
| 1:51.5 | vision of the goal to take to lead a spiritually self-governed and serious life of purpose |
| 2:00.3 | and also a civically meaningful life. |
| 2:03.8 | In your book, you offer up the LDS Church as an example of what you call thick Christianity |
| 2:10.6 | where it's possible to embrace the Madisonian values of pluralism and compromise and civility and also lead |
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