I don't know what those white people in this country feel,

but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institution.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith, risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children,

on some idealism which you assure me

exists in America, which I have never seen.

So today we have two special guests, and they have an organization that they work with, and

they're going to tell us about about called the Stereotype Project.

We have with us Gene Franco Wilson and Liz Kim.

Hi.

Hi.

How are y'all doing?

Thank you for having us.

We're doing well.

Yeah, we're glad to have you guys.

And so I always start the interviews off with you telling us about yourself.

And it doesn't have to be anything like your credentials unless you want to, something heavy.

It could be just something about yourself that goes beyond this work that you do.

So who is Jen and who is Liz?

Yeah, I, my name is Gian Franco. I'm very, very excited and thankful to be here.

Outside of this work, I'm a filmmaker. I am very, very passionate and engaged in media and through the pandemic, I can't say, during, because we started before and we finished sort of halfway through,

we released a film called Venus as a Boy, went to Tribeca Film Festival, and was successful to win one of the

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