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🗓️ 2 June 2022
⏱️ 12 minutes
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In 2012, a street preacher walking three small dogs tried to convince Jeff Emtman of his way of thinking about gender and the afterlife.
In this Here Be Monsters brief, Jeff shares the short essay he originally wrote about the dinner party where they attempted to make an uneasy friendship.
Jeff re-edited the essay in 2022 and gave pseudonyms to the main characters (“Cliff” and “Sophie”).
Producer: Jeff EmtmanMusic: The Black Spot
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0:00.0 | I met Cliff while he was working on the streets of Boulder, Colorado. |
0:19.1 | He told me he was retired, but that he still clocked in most days. |
0:22.6 | I met him there on the sidewalk outside my bank. |
0:26.7 | He was there. |
0:27.7 | He was multitasking. |
0:29.5 | He was half focused on sizing me up, trying to figure out whether I would be receptive |
0:33.6 | to his views on gender and the afterlife, and half focused on his three dogs, who were |
0:38.7 | down at his feet, tangled in their leashes. |
0:45.6 | Cliff said to me, you know Jeff, all I'm trying to do is plant some seeds. |
0:49.4 | Do you wish I was more liberal? |
0:52.4 | And I said no Cliff, I wish you were more moderate. |
0:59.4 | The dogs look happy to be there. |
1:01.4 | Cliff did too. |
1:02.4 | And I'd met a couple street preachers before. |
1:05.2 | Most of them seemed angry and oversensitive, but Cliff was neither. |
1:09.4 | He was all smiles, and he didn't get upset with me when I disagreed with him. |
1:15.5 | I asked him what his story was, and he told me he used to be Catholic, and then for a while |
1:20.3 | he was an atheist. |
1:23.3 | Then he became a Christian, and that's what he is now, just a Christian, and he wants |
1:28.0 | to set a couple things straight. |
1:30.3 | First, if you get married, then you have to stay married, no matter what, you only get |
1:35.7 | one shot at it. |
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