Hello, this is Emma Ganon, and thank you for listening to this podcast. I just wanted to let you know that my new book, The Success Myth, Letting Go of Having It All, is out on May the 18th.

I think it's my best book yet, so I'm excited for it to come out. And the book unpicks the eight success myths from happiness to money, to productivity, to celebrity, to the idea of finally arriving, and how chasing a version of success that doesn't align with your values can really take you off track, and this book is about getting back to yourself.

Breaking free, finding a new way forward, and it's available on May the 18th. If you love this podcast, you'll love the book, and it's available soon from all good bookshops, so you can order yours now. I hope you like it.

Hi, this is Emma Ganon, and welcome back to The Success Myth Diaries. This is a brand new mini series to accompany my new book, The Success Myth. Letting Go of Having It All, which is out on May the 18th.

My book unpicks the eight success myths from happiness to money, to productivity, to celebrity, to the idea of arriving forevermore, and I look at all the different ways that traditional success is constantly marketed to us, and how it can often take us off track to what really makes us feel happy and fulfilled in life.

To celebrate, I'm interviewing a selection of people I admire about what success means to them, and I've asked them to come with three success myths that speak to them.

This guest is the British actor, Sean Clifford, probably best known for playing Claire in Fleabag, and of course, reading the audiobook of a novel called Olive. She's also a friend of mine, and I'm loving her substag. It's called Stillspace, and Stillspace was actually born back in 2015.

She describes it as a philosophical and exploratory space for people through long form writing, and a place to support those who like her feel summoned to create change.

So I encourage you to not only check out the amazing TV shows that she's currently in on Netflix, but also her brilliant substag.

And here, Sean discusses her three success myths, the then and when theory, the myth of busyness, and the myth of perfectionism.

So I hope you enjoy this episode with Sean Clifford.

So I'm thrilled to have my lovely friend and the amazing writer and actor, Sean Clifford, on the success myth diaries. Welcome.

Woohoo! That's the first time I'm going to refer to as a writer in public.

Well, you're an incredible writer, Sean. I love your substags so much, and actually that was sort of why I had you in mind to talk on this podcast is actually one of your pieces on there called Access Hollywood for anyone who wants to go and check out your substag, but we'll get into that.

I did interview you around like seven years ago for a podcast back in the day, so it's nice to do this again.

Yeah, that's when we met as when our friendship blossomed immediately.

And in fact, we had to re record it because the sound was terrible when we were in. I can't remember where we were.

And I think we were both more focused on eating delicious food and falling in love with each other.

And I'm glad my podcast skills have improved since then because that was ridiculous me trying to record with you in a busy bar.

So the point of the success myth diaries is to talk about the success myths that mean something to us.

I talk about the eight success myths in my new book and I'm fascinated to talk to you.

So the first one is the myth of then and when.

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