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Inside the Hive

The Tangled, Messy Roots of Fake News

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

People were grappling with "fake news" long before it became Donald Trump's favorite term. Fake news might feel new — but the concept has a long twisted history in the United States, as Andie Tucher, a Columbia Journalism School professor and author of the new book "Not Exactly Lying: Fake News and Fake Journalism in American History," tells Inside the Hive cohost Emily Jane Fox this week. How did we get to this moment, with its toxic mix of hyperpartisanship, disinformation, and seemingly endless turmoil? What is the role of social media, and of Donald Trump and Fox News in making our understanding of reality feel so dire? Tucher also explains how Democrats and Republicans, as well as liberal media and conservative media, communicate about truth differently, and explores how we can restore faith in our sources of news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Welcome back to Inside the High of, this is Emily Jane Fox and I'm here with a very, very

0:42.6

special guest.

0:43.6

I'm here with Professor Andy Tucker, a historian and journalist who is taught at Columbia

0:48.4

Journalism School, my former alma mater.

0:51.2

Since 1998, she has been writing on the evolution of conventions of truth telling for decades

0:57.0

and she is the author of a new book that is just absolutely fantastic.

1:01.7

I read it last night.

1:02.7

The book is called Not Exactly Lying, Fake News and Fake Journalism in American History,

1:08.4

Professor, welcome.

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Thank you.

1:11.2

I'm happy to be here.

1:12.3

Your book feels like it could not be more timely.

1:16.4

This is the topic that Joe and I talk about all the time in this podcast.

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It is the topic of any smart person having any kind of conversation in the world right

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