Hi and welcome to everything is fine a podcast for women over 40. We are your

hosts. I'm Kim France and I'm Jen Ramoline and for a minute you look like you were about to cry. Oh no I wasn't about

I'm just like am I tired am I crying am I laughing? I was, no, you're looking at the face of somebody who basically

pulled an all-nighter making a zine as if I'm fucking 16 years old.

Tell me about the scene. So we're gonna have it. There's gonna be a

companion zine for my book that people can get like through I don't know some like giveaway or

something and like some people like whatever you could get a zine with my book

email me, DM me but so I had to make a zine and like I made a lot of zines in the early 90s like late 80s early 90s I made a lot of

zines with a lot of letters from sassy like I used a lot of s stories, like I knew how to make a zine.

I start trying to make this zine, right?

Or obviously it's like a nostalgia, Gen X-Zine, blah, blah, it's a companion,

and has pictures in it. I was like do I need a fucking engineering degree for this? How did I figure this out?

Because you know you have to like you have to lay it out so that it's like opposite like so that you can lay them all on top of each other and staple it.

And I'm like collaging, but like collaging like photocopying like, like photocopying like, like photocopying like like photocopying cassette tapes like old

Annie DeFranco and like cassette tapes and like I found all like concert stuff like

ticket stuff anyway

fucking not meant for an old person a zine ha ha that's all I'm saying

well I'm curious because whenever I've got to do anything that requires me to go into my boxes.

Yes. Like my boxes of photos, my boxes of like, you know, ephemera.

Like it fucks with my head.

Oh, it fucks with my head big time. It really did and it was like four days of like collecting all

things to put in the zine and it absolutely did fuck with my head. I did find I guess I had like my checkbook on top of my desk

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