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Astrology Podcast. This episode is recorded on Wednesday, July 5th, 2017,

starting just after 502 p.m. in Denver, Colorado, and this is the 115th episode of the show.

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dot com slash subscribe. In this episode I'm going to be talking with

astrologer Vic de Kara about the use of the tropical zodiac in Indian

astrology. Vick welcome to the show.

Thank you so much, Chris.

All right, so this is a topic.

It actually came up last month.

I interviewed Ernst Wilhelm,

and we had a brief digression at one point,

since one of the things Ernst is known for is his arguments and his use of the tropical zodiac and Indian astrology, and that caught some of my listeners a little bit off guard and we sort of glossed over the topic. But over the past month I saw some of the

debates that you've been having on the subject and that you've actually talked quite a bit about it. So I wanted

to have somebody on the show to talk about what the deal is with this, what the debate is about, and sort of outline it for, you know, most of my audience is Western astrologers, but there's obviously a lot of debate even in the Western tradition

about the correct zodiac to use.

So I thought you would be a good person to talk to about this debate in the Indian tradition.

So where do we start, where is the starting point for you?

That's really hard right where to start. I think the best place to start is probably with

your epistemology because that's a real the old old old days they were really really brilliant people

doing astrology like Ptolemy and Galileo and Da Vinci I don't know you know all the great scientists were doing astrology so all the greatest minds were considering it

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