The Frankie's were a picture-perfect influencer family.

We're the drivers of the eight passengers.

We're mom and dad.

A mom, Ruby, a dad, and six kids.

On social media, they called themselves eight passengers. They

were blonde, fit, and color coordinated. They go to church with their LDS

congregation every Sunday.

All right, you guys, we're going to go check out another church.

I'm really, really excited.

But everything wasn't, as it seemed. Poulinser Ruby Frankie was strict,

as a Mormon and as a parent.

I'm only going to say it one more time

and then you're going to lose the privilege to eat dinner.

Ruby became close with another Mormon woman,

a family therapist named Jody Hildebrand.

Welcome to Connections.

I'm Jody Hildebrand.

So glad you're with us.

And Jody was even stricter.

My dad's a bishop in the church.

They couldn't be more Mormon.

But in Jody's eyes eyes they were heathens.

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