Is he a Maryland man or a member of MS-13?

Today, we will dive into the complex and often contentious world of immigration policy

and legal battles facing the Trump administration.

In this episode, we sit down with Will Chamberlain, Senior Counsel at the Article III project,

to impact the case of Kilmour-Abrego-Garcia.

From allegations of MS-13 ties to a web of legal maneuvers that kept him in the United States,

we'll explore how this case exposes deep flaws in our immigration system.

Join us as we discuss the lies, the lawyers, and the broader implications for justice and national security.

Stay tuned for Will Chamberlain.

Well, it's great to have you on the show.

I wanted to have someone on to talk about this case, and then I saw your post and reached out.

So I appreciate you making the time and look forward to trying to make this case a little

less complicated for people.

Yeah, it's good to be here with you, Lisa.

All right.

So the media is obviously in the left trying to make this a situation where Kilmore, Abrigo,

Garcia, he's just a Maryland man,

you know, he's a father, he's done nothing wrong, really trying to turn him into a sympathetic

figure. So you posted on X, the story of Kilmar Abrago Garcia is not about the wrongful

deportation of a Maryland father. It's about the abuse of her immigration system by illegal migrants,

the lawyers who help them lie, and the nonprofits who agitate to keep them in the country.

I guess walk us through. How did Garcia abuse our immigration system?

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