The U.S. Politicians Selling Out to Foreign Dictators Factually with Casey Michel

Factually! with Adam Conover

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4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Politicians are meant to serve the people, but let’s be real—sometimes they just end up serving whoever’s got the deepest pockets, even if those pockets are overseas. Believe it or not, foreign powers have been messing with our political system for years through entirely legal means: good old-fashioned lobbying. This week, Adam sits with Casey Michel, author of Foreign Agents: How American Lobbyists and Lawmakers Threaten Democracy Around the World, to dive into how our politicians are getting sold off to the highest bidder—and what that means for all of us. Find Casey's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast. I don't know what to think I don't know what to say
0:16.0	and that's all right that's okay
0:21.0	I don't know anything.
0:26.1	Hello and welcome to Factually.
0:27.8	I'm Adam Conover.
0:28.6	Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.
0:30.7	You know, in the last couple years,
0:32.4	a lot of people have been on a red alert for foreign
0:34.8	influence in American government. There were a lot of people worried about
0:37.8	Russian Bot Farms and then Iranian or Chinese sponsored hacking
0:41.9	networks.
0:42.8	Now, Russians did not steal the 2016 election for Trump,
0:45.9	that is not the case, but it is the case
0:48.5	that foreign governments will try to bribe a US official
0:51.7	for information or access.
0:53.2	Espionage like that is a real thing.
0:55.8	And other countries really do use nefarious means
0:58.6	to sow chaos and advance their interests here.
1:01.4	But something that has been far less reported on is that
1:05.1	these countries also use entirely legal means to influence American government and
1:10.6	society. You see there's actually an entire industry of foreign
1:14.4	influence in America. It's called lobbying. This industry which makes massive amounts of
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