Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. Oh, you have one of our perennial

guests here and one of my favorite people in the world, Dr. Merrill Nas, who is a physician,

a general practitioner who practices in Maine, although the Maine Medical Board has been

trying to take her license and she's been making fools of them in her court case, which is really,

by the way, one of the most enjoyable reads that I've had in years that transcripts of that court

case in the, you know, just the humiliating situation, these doctors, these, you know, so-called

experts have gotten themselves into. Merrill's also one of the leading bioweapons research experts.

She's testified repeatedly before Congress, I think, like six occasions. She was one of the lead

investigators who discovered key issues about the anthrax attacks and researchers on the

anthrax attack back in 2001. And of course, we know that anthrax, which originally was blamed

on Saddam Hussein, and it ended up coming from federal bioweapons facilities, probably the

Fort Detrick, the FBI found that it came from Fort Detrick, which is the joint army and the CIA

bioweapons facility in Maryland. I have to correct you. The FBI never solved the case,

never was able to show where it came from, and their, the case got criticized. They used

Bruce Evans, who was a scientist in that lab, and then he allegedly committed suicide, and then

they just dropped the case. They dropped the case, and the GAO wrote a report and the National

Academy of Sciences issued a report afterwards that criticized the FBI's theory of the case.

So they didn't exactly, so they dropped it because they didn't have to take it to court,

but they still claimed their Amerithrax report that Evans had been the guilty party.

I've been to the friend of mine. I didn't know that, and what was the nature of that friendship?

We had sat next to each other in a conference on the ethics of biological defense work in 1991,

and so we'd known each other for a long time, and I would attend anthrax conferences. He sometimes

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