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Worldly

The world’s great powers

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down one of the DC foreign policy world’s hottest new catchphrases: “great power competition.” It’s the idea that international politics in the 21st century will be dominated by a struggle for influence between the US, China, and (to a lesser extent) Russia. The gang talks about what the concept actually means and whether it’s a useful framework for understanding international politics today and in the future. References: Dan Nexon’s Foreign Affairs article inspired the Worldly crew to record this episode. The Atlantic had an excellent piece explaining how “great power competition” became a DC buzzword. The National Interest had an op-ed detailing why great power competition could be a problem. Matthew Kroenig wrote in Foreign Policy on how the US should outline goals for its competition with China. The Congressional Research Service has a comprehensive report on what “great power competition” has meant in recent years. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), White House reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a term that has become dominant in foreign policy and international relations

0:14.5

conversations right now, and the term is great power competition, right?

0:19.7

It's everywhere, right?

0:20.7

And it's based on the sort of obvious observation that you're starting to see more areas of

0:25.5

competition between the United States and China and to a lesser extent, Russia, and that

0:30.3

this seems like an important thing for international relations, okay, but what actually is important

0:37.4

about this?

0:38.4

What is competition in great power competition even mean, right?

0:43.0

And what does it mean for the future of the world if there is in fact a return to whatever

0:48.5

this kind of competition is, or if it's a return to some kind of previous past at all

0:53.2

in any meaningful sense?

0:54.2

These are all questions that come up that aren't really answered in any depth in the

0:59.1

public conversations surrounding the future of the world.

1:02.4

So today onworldly, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, we are going to talk about great

1:07.9

power competition.

1:08.9

We're going to try to understand what it means, what the implications for the world would

1:12.4

be if there is in fact a rise of great power competition, and whether or not any kind

1:18.0

of workable foreign policy can be built around this idea as the Trump administration in particular

1:22.0

are trying to, and it's unclear whether the Biden team will pick up this mantle.

1:25.8

I'm Zach Beecham, here's always with Jen Williams and Alex Ward.

1:29.1

Hey!

1:30.1

Good morning.

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